What's That? by Nigel and Freddie Lungenmuss-Ward

Last week, the pupils at Moorlands Primary Academy were fortunate enough to receive an advance copy of What's That?, the new book by Nigel Lungenmuss-Ward and his son, Robbie. I was also able to catch up with Nigel and ask him a few questions about the book.

What's That? was a real hit with the children. Below is a selection of the feedback from our Year One and Two pupils and staff.

"I love the seagull and worm." Harlee

"I enjoyed this story because she was using her imagination." Stanley

"It was amazing because I loved all the things that the children thought the cloth could be." Charlie

"This book is really creative and I like the drawings." Nellie

"I loved the colourful pictures in the book. It's really funny because there's a funny worm" Ella

"I loved it, loved it, loved it because the pictures were funny." Eloise

"I liked the giant in the story because it was the same one from Jack and the Beanstalk." Sam

"It's a great story because it's colourful and funny." Hollie

“My favourite part was when dad was reading Freddie's Impossible Dream!" Jessica

"I like that they use their imagination." Ollie

"I thought it was very funny and imaginative." Emmy

"The cloth can be anything they want it to be." Mary-Jane

"This book is very funny and I just loved the seagull." Hugo

"I loved the way that the story encouraged the children to use their imaginations to enter a fantasy land and explore endless possibilities." Miss Thurtle

Hi Nigel, I was a huge fan of your debut book, Freddie's Impossible Dream. Your new book, What's That?, all about the power of imagination, is out now. Where did the original idea come from?

Thanks Jon. I really appreciate your support and guidance with the promo for the first book. The inspiration for this book came from a game I invented, which I played my class during transition week each year. After reading some research on developing divergent thinking within the workplace I created The Imagination Game to promote divergent thinking within my classroom. I would find a warm sunny spot on the playground and present the class with a random object. Once, I used my lunch box and, after a brief introduction on convergent and divergent thinking, I asked them, “What’s this?” The first couple of children would usually stare blankly at me until someone raised the bar. One child described my lunch box, whilst giving a physical demonstration, as a potty. After this, the divergent thinking would rapidly become more fantastical. I loved this activity as it offered me a gateway into each child’s mind and, more importantly...it was also extremely fun!

How do you suggest teachers encourage children to use their imaginations at school?

I learned a very important lesson whilst working with Robbie during the completion of our first book, which I feel made me a better father and educator alike. It happened right at the very start of Robbie drawing the pictures. I used to give him lots of details on how I imagined the page would look. I would draw stick men and lay the page out for him. I thought I was helping him, but I found that I was actually killing his creativity and passion for the project. His drawings were not as good as the ones he was completing when he was just doodling and doing it for fun. In fact, he stopped wanting to even work on the book altogether. So, I tried a different approach. I gave him minimal guidance and just wrote down the words for each page and asked him to draw whatever he thought matched my narrative. I found this is when his drawings really improved and his passion for the project returned. The lesson I took into my classroom was to try and not over scaffold things. Educators can sometimes be so engrossed in making sure that a child achieves an outcome that we remove any form of creativity and independence for the child. Of course, we need to support but from that day on I tried to pare it back whenever I could.

It's lovely to see that you've continued to work with your son as the illustrator. Did the text lead the artwork or did the artwork lead the text? What was the creative process behind the book?

As I mentioned in the previous question, I write the story and then approach Robbie with it for him to draw. With What’s That? though I asked him to start drawing the main characters before I had finished my final draft. This is the part I think he enjoys the most. He loves creating new characters and that is why I gave him free rein with Wormington and Siago in this story, just like I did with Crabbie in Freddie’s Impossible dream. These characters are all Robbie’s work. I have very little input at all. In fact, I asked him for a character and of course he decided we were having two. Whenever I visit schools with Freddie the children love the Crabbie character the most and I really enjoy telling them that an 8-year-old boy created it. I have a feeling that it will be the same again with Wormington and Siago, which really is magical.

We were very lucky to have you visit Moorlands at the start of the year. I believe it was one of your first school visits and our children still mention you regularly. What do you think an author visit can add to a child's school experience?

It was a pleasure to visit your school and meet all of your wonderful readers! It is so great to hear that the children remember me and that they enjoyed my visit. I have checked this; Moorlands was my very first in school author visit. I was keen to come to your Moorlands as I know the culture of reading for pleasure that exists in the school. From my experience of visiting schools, the main benefit of having an author visit is the impact it can have on a child’s view of reading and writing. I always try to make my visits fun, engaging and inspirational. I particularly enjoy it when I tell children I love reading and writing and they respond in kind. I feel that having someone, who isn’t the children’s teacher, deliver this message is vital to changing some children’s outlook upon the subjects. I have had several instances where teachers have got in touch to explain how students have changed post visit and they have become much more open to reading books or even a bigger variety of books. If I can play a small part in changing even one child’s life for the better then I will be a very happy man indeed.

What's next for you and Robbie?

We keep creating. My vision is to release a book every year, which will serve as a timeline of Robbie’s drawing development. I believe that the illustrations for What’s That? are a vast improvement on the illustrations in Freddie’s Impossible Dream. I write because I enjoy it, but really, I write because I want to showcase Robbie’s talent and give him the best possible platform to achieve whatever he wants in life. As an educator, I feel that the journey Robbie and I are on has the potential to inspire others to go and chase their dreams and to achieve whatever they want too. I have several other ideas and first drafts that are waiting to be published. I am also really looking forward to working for the National Literacy Trust over the summer. I will be leading six writing workshops for children with the aim of creating three stories based on inventions from our hometown of Lowestoft, which will be showcased later in the year. I am so excited about what the future holds, and I cannot wait to hear what people think of What’s That?

Fantastic Nigel, thank you for your time. Good luck with the book launch!